Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

03/27/2008 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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+ SB 285 STATE INTERVENTION IN SCHOOL DISTRICT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 386 ENERGY SUBSIDY FOR SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 386(HES) Out of Committee
*+ HB 358 NEEDY CHILDREN: EDUC./ SOCIAL WORKERS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 306 PRE-ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROGRAMS/PLANS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 306(HES) Out of Committee
SB 285-STATE INTERVENTION IN SCHOOL DISTRICT                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:06:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
CS FOR  SENATE BILL NO. 285(FIN),  "An Act relating to  the power                                                               
and duties of  the Department of Education  and Early Development                                                               
for improving  instructional practices  in school  districts; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:07:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  LAMKIN,   Staff  to  Senator  Gary   Stevens,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  informed the  committee that  SB 285  was a  direct                                                               
result of the  Moore v. State court case that  clarified that the                                                             
legislature  has a  constitutional  obligation  to establish  and                                                               
maintain a  system of public schools.   The judge ruled  that the                                                               
legislature  has met  its requirement  to fund  schools, but  has                                                               
failed  to maintain  those schools.  Further, where  schools have                                                               
failed to meet adequate yearly  progress, local control must give                                                               
way to legislative oversight that  is delegated to the Department                                                               
of Education  and Early Development  (EED).  Mr.  Lamkin, reading                                                               
from the court case, remarked:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The court finds that  the education clause requires the                                                                    
     state  to  take  ultimate responsibility  for  ensuring                                                                    
     that each child  in the state is  accorded a meaningful                                                                    
     opportunity  to achieve  proficiency in  writing, math,                                                                    
     reading,  and  science.  ...   The  evidence  at  trial                                                                    
     clearly    established   that    considerably   greater                                                                    
     oversight by  the state over the  education of Alaska's                                                                    
     children,  at  least  at  the  state's  most  seriously                                                                    
     underperforming  schools is  critically needed.  ... In                                                                    
     order to  achieve compliance with the  education clause                                                                    
     requirements, to  maintain a system of  public schools,                                                                    
     the state  must do, at  a minimum, two things.   First,                                                                    
     it must establish clear  standards for school districts                                                                    
     that  are necessary  for the  districts to  retain full                                                                    
     local  control.    Second,   the  state  must  exercise                                                                    
     considerably  more oversight  and provide  considerably                                                                    
     more  assistance and  direction to  those schools  that                                                                    
     are  identified   as  failing   to  meet   the  state's                                                                    
     constitutional  obligation.   Finally,  this court  has                                                                    
     found that the state  has violated the education clause                                                                    
     in  one significant  respect;  although  the state  may                                                                    
     delegate its responsibility  to maintain public schools                                                                    
     to  local  school districts  as  it  has done,  it  has                                                                    
     failed to exercise adequate supervision and oversight.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN concluded  that this bill would provide  the means for                                                               
the EED to exercise the required supervision when needed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:11:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  clarified that  Version L was  before the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:11:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN  explained each section of  the bill.  He  pointed out                                                               
that page 3  of the bill provides clear guidelines  as to when an                                                               
intervention by  the EED  into a  local district  school district                                                               
would  occur.   Mr. Lamkin  called the  committee's attention  to                                                               
page  5,  line  1,  that  specified  "employees  that  are  in  a                                                               
supervisory  capacity   over  instructional  practices."     This                                                               
identified principals  and superintendents.   Further, throughout                                                               
the  bill,  the  word  "withhold"  was  replaced  by  "redirect."                                                               
Finally, on page 3, there was a minor oversight of a correction.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:13:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  observed that  one of  the points  from the                                                               
court  case   states  that  when   a  school  is   deficient,  an                                                               
intervention occurs  throughout the school district  based on the                                                               
performance of one school in the district.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:14:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN responded  that it was not the purpose  of the bill to                                                               
affect  an entire  school district.    The language  of the  bill                                                               
allows  the  EED to  intervene  specifically  at the  school,  or                                                               
schools, that are deficient.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:15:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  asked how the  EED would determine  an intervention                                                               
was necessary.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:15:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS, Director,  School  Finance  and Facilities  Section,                                                               
Department  of Education  and Early  Development, spoke  first to                                                               
Representative  Roses'  question  and  stated  that  on  page  5,                                                               
[subparagraph]   (A),  the   language  allows   for  "supervisory                                                               
authority for  instructional practices  in the  district or  in a                                                               
specified school."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:16:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES asked, "Who determines the or?"                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:16:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS answered that the EED would make the determination.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:16:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES  further  asked what  guidelines  would  be                                                               
used.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:16:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS  explained that this legislation was to  allow the EED                                                               
to supervise at the individual  school level, as requested by the                                                               
court. The  district as a whole  would still be accounted  for by                                                               
the standards under the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (NCLB).                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:17:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES gave an example  in which a school is deemed                                                               
deficient  and intervention  begins.   He asked  whether the  EED                                                               
advisors would address the concerns  only to the personnel of the                                                               
deficient school or to the entire district.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:17:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.    JEANS reminded  the  committee  that proposed  regulations                                                               
allow for  a school  level component  that focuses  on individual                                                               
schools.   This would direct  the EED  to work with  the district                                                               
administration and  school board to develop  a school improvement                                                               
plan for a single school, or multiple schools, as necessary.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  opined that  the language  in the  bill did                                                               
not make that distinction.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.   JEANS  affirmed that  the EED  does have  a desk  audit and                                                               
intervention strategy for districts in separate regulations.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:19:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES observed that  this discussion is to clarify                                                               
the distinction and  intent of the bill.  He  noted that there is                                                               
concern from school districts on this issue.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:19:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LAMKIN pointed  out the  letter  of intent  provided in  the                                                               
committee packet.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:19:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON recalled  that the  committee  previously used  the                                                               
tests scores from NCLB assessments  to determine failing schools.                                                               
She asked  what the procedure  would be  after the passage  of SB
285.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.    JEANS  explained  that the  common  thread  between  state                                                               
intervention and NCLB is the use  of the same data.  However, the                                                               
state intervention is guided by  regulations from the State Board                                                               
of  Education.   First, the  school must  meet its  annual yearly                                                               
progress  (AYP);  second, 50  percent  of  the students  must  be                                                               
proficient; third,  the students must  show growth.  If  there is                                                               
no growth, the intervention process begins.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:22:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON surmised that, in the  first year, a school might be                                                               
put on notice.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:22:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS indicated  that, if decreases were  apparent in student                                                               
proficiencies in  one year, there  would not be any  hesitancy on                                                               
the part  of the  EED to  contact the school  and begin  a school                                                               
level  improvement  plan,  including training  and  possibly  the                                                               
assignment of a school coach.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:24:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER referred to page  3, line 25, that directs                                                               
the  EED to  inform  the legislature  before  intervention.   She                                                               
asked  how  this  requirement  would  affect  the  timing  of  an                                                               
intervention.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:24:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LES  MORSE, Director,  Assessment and  Accountability, Department                                                               
of Education  and Early Development, informed  the committee that                                                               
assessments   take   place   in   April   and   school   progress                                                               
determinations would be  final, and are analyzed, in  August.  He                                                               
pointed out that analysis is not  solely based on annual AYP, but                                                               
on other data also.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:25:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  further asked whether a  decision made in                                                               
August  would  be  delayed  until  the  legislature  convenes  in                                                               
January.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:26:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  said no.   The bill does  not require approval  by the                                                               
legislature  to  intervene, but  that  the  legislature would  be                                                               
provided notice of any action.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:26:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER advised  that  the bill  states [page  3,                                                               
line 26]  that the legislature would  receive notification before                                                               
intervention.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:27:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARY STEVENS,  Alaska State  Legislature, stressed  that                                                               
the legislature  can not abandon its  responsibility; even during                                                               
interim, meetings  would be held  by committees to  shoulder this                                                               
responsibility and to maintain the legislature's involvement.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:28:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER expressed  her concern  that establishing                                                               
in  statute  that the  legislature  must  be informed  before  an                                                               
intervention, may be an impediment to the EED.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:29:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.    JEANS  opined  that  this  requirement  would  not  be  an                                                               
impediment,  but  would  simply  require written  notice  to  the                                                               
committee chair of each body that an intervention was necessary.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON indicated the propriety of notification.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:29:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER referred to the  transcript of the Moore v                                                             
State case and read:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Mr. Slotnick  said, speaking to  the judge, "As  far as                                                                    
     the  legislature  taking  action,  the  legislature  is                                                                    
     going to  do what it  does.  We  don't know if  it will                                                                    
     take any  action or not, but  as far as what  the state                                                                    
     Department of  Education is doing, that's  in progress,                                                                    
     that's  not going  to change,  and even  if there  were                                                                    
     action taken  by the  legislature that  wouldn't change                                                                    
     the improvement plans that we  have in place that we're                                                                    
     implementing right now.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  then  questioned   whether  SB  285  was                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:31:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  assured the committee  that SB 285 clarifies  that the                                                               
legislature supports interventions  by the EED in  schools.  When                                                               
the  EED intervenes  through NCLB,  the first  question from  the                                                               
local  district is  whether it  has  the authority  to act;  this                                                               
legislation will remove the question of local control.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:31:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  opined  that  the  state  should  support                                                               
schools in  a constructive  way.   She then  referred to  page 3,                                                               
line 27, that read "withholding  public school funding" and asked                                                               
whether  "redirecting  public  school   funding"  would  be  more                                                               
appropriate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:33:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LAMKIN  agreed and  indicated  that  the language  would  be                                                               
changed in the forthcoming committee substitute (CS).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:34:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  asked  whether  the  school  coaches  are                                                               
adequately trained  to assist schools  in rural  communities such                                                               
as South Naknek, in a supportive and cooperative effort.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:35:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS acknowledged that South  Naknek is unique; however, its                                                               
situation is not new.  The  high school students have been flying                                                               
across  the river  for many  years,  and now  the population  has                                                               
declined and  the decision was made  at the local level  to close                                                               
the grade  school.  Previous  legislation dictated that  a school                                                               
must have  ten students  to receive funding  at a  separate site.                                                               
On the other hand,  this  legislation was to help improve student                                                               
achievement  at   schools  that   are  not  making   progress  in                                                               
instructional   practices.      Mr.   Eddy   stated   that   past                                                               
interventions have  resulted in increases in  student achievement                                                               
in all of the districts affected.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:37:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  referred to  the gains that  schools have                                                               
made  after intervention  and asked  Mr. Jeans  whether, in  some                                                               
cases, outside factors can not be overcome.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:38:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS accepted  that possibility;  however, the  state would                                                               
need to  be able to  demonstrate to the  courts that the  EED has                                                               
made every effort  within the confines of the  school to increase                                                               
achievement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:38:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  stated his support  for the concept  of the                                                               
bill.    Furthermore,  the  state has  taken  steps  beyond  this                                                               
legislation to  prove to  the court  that adequate  and equitable                                                               
adjustments   across   the   state   are  being   made   by   the                                                               
implementation  of area  cost differentials  to ensure  equitable                                                               
opportunities  for   education.    Also,  the   state  is  making                                                               
adjustments  in  school  transportation costs.    Addressing  the                                                               
concerns  of intensive  needs  students  is another  prescriptive                                                               
measure taken.   He stressed that the problem will  not be solved                                                               
immediately,   however,   the    state   has   demonstrated   its                                                               
understanding  of the  problem and  prescriptive measures  toward                                                               
solutions are  underway.  Representative  Roses pointed  out that                                                               
the  court's  decision  covered K  through  12  education,  which                                                               
includes  charter, home,  and correspondence  schools. Thus,  the                                                               
Joint  Legislative Education  Funding Task  Force began  the work                                                               
required,  and he  indicated that  the  court should  acknowledge                                                               
this first step.  Representative  Roses warned that one bill will                                                               
not provide all of the strategies needed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:43:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS reminded  the committee that the state  won the lawsuit                                                               
in the area concerning whether  the state provides adequate funds                                                               
for  education.    The  point   that  the  judge  made  was  that                                                               
sufficient  oversight  was  not  being provided  in  areas  where                                                               
students  are not  meeting proficiencies.   He  opined that  this                                                               
legislation responds  to the  ruling by the  judge by  giving the                                                               
EED the clear authority to intervene in individual schools.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:44:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES gave the example  of the intervention of the                                                               
Northwest   Arctic   School   District.      He   expressed   his                                                               
understanding that  three of the  twelve schools  were identified                                                               
by  the instructional  audit, but  the intervention  was district                                                               
wide.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:44:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS disagreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:45:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MORSE explained  that  an instructional  audit  was done  in                                                               
three  schools for  data on  the school  district.   In addition,                                                               
data  from 2005  was compared  and  indicated that  eight of  the                                                               
twelve schools had declined in  performance.  Furthermore, ten of                                                               
the  schools had  not  made AYP  for several  years.   Mr.  Morse                                                               
pointed  out  that site  visits  are  representative of  what  is                                                               
happening  in  the district.    In  response  to a  question,  he                                                               
indicated that  sites are picked  for their ability  to represent                                                               
the district.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:46:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  related his experience with  irrelevant in-                                                               
services.   He questioned  the wisdom  of redirecting  funds that                                                               
are needed  for programs.   On the other hand,  perhaps effective                                                               
districts should be  rewarded.  He then asked  for an explanation                                                               
of what the  long range impact is to a  school that must redirect                                                               
funding from programs due to an intervention.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:49:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MORSE  explained how a  lack of efficiency was  identified in                                                               
another  school district.   The  EED assisted  the district  with                                                               
changes in  curriculum and funding redirection  resulted in gains                                                               
within a short period of time.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:51:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ROSES   reminded   the  committee   that   every                                                               
department in  the state  has a  supplemental budget,  except for                                                               
the  school   districts.  He  expressed  his   concern  that  the                                                               
redirection  of funds,  without  a mechanism  to recapture  those                                                               
funds, could have a negative impact on schools.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:52:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked  for the funding source that  pays coaches who                                                               
go to the schools.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:52:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  stated that  the fiscal note  includes over   $200,000                                                               
that  would  be  used  to  hire  the  coaches,  as  well  as  the                                                               
redirected funds.   He cautioned against  requiring the districts                                                               
to pay for the coaches.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:53:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  agreed   that  there  is  a   negative  impact  of                                                               
redirecting  money  from  a district's  instructional  budget  to                                                               
provide  funds for  a  coach.   She supported  the   fiscal  note                                                               
accompanying  the  bill.    Chair   Wilson  then  invited  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:54:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NORMAN ECK, PhD; Superintendent,  Northwest Arctic Borough School                                                               
District,  stated  that he  was  speaking  as an  individual  and                                                               
indicated his support  for SB 285 and the  improvements that have                                                               
been made to the original bill.     He agreed that this bill is a                                                               
first  step  in acknowledging  the  constitutional  right of  all                                                               
children  to be  successful academically.  Dr. Eck  described how                                                               
the  intervention occurred  in his  district, and  explained that                                                               
prior to  that action,  a district wide  improvement plan  was in                                                               
progress.   His school district  was pleased to partner  with the                                                               
EED in  the intervention and  expects to continue to  see student                                                               
growth. The  three schools in  his district that were  subject to                                                               
intervention had  flat line  performances over  a period  of time                                                               
and they  are now experiencing growth.   However, he said  that a                                                               
more  focused   approach  would   be  superior  as   teachers  in                                                               
successful  schools are  unnecessarily  included in  intervention                                                               
strategies.    Furthermore, the  fiscal note accompanying  SB 285                                                               
is  inadequate  as  schools  in  rural  areas  do  not  have  the                                                               
infrastructure,   such  as   school   psychologists  and   speech                                                               
pathologists, to  make a difference.   He suggested a pool  of $5                                                               
million  that would  be available  to the  five school  districts                                                               
identified for  intervention.   Dr. Eck  summarized that  the EED                                                               
has been  communicative with  his district on  the issues  of the                                                               
intervention; nevertheless,  there were  errors and flaws  in the                                                               
execution of the task.  In  fact, there were some harmful aspects                                                               
to the intervention, and he cited  a 50 percent turnover in staff                                                               
that  has  occurred  as  a  consequence.   Dr.  Eck  advised  the                                                               
committee that SB  285 was legislation that was  necessary for an                                                               
in-depth examination of all of the issues.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:03:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  closed public testimony,  and stated her  intent to                                                               
hold the bill.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:03:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH recalled  the  statement  made by  the                                                               
superintendent  that "the  department  should  have been  ready."                                                               
She expressed  her belief  that the  school district  should have                                                               
been ready  and pointed  out that the  EED communicated  with the                                                               
school district on the program  and analysis of the intervention.                                                               
Additionally,  she  agreed  that  an intervention  by  the  state                                                               
should do  no harm.   Representative Fairclough then  opined that                                                               
the state should establish best  teaching practices statewide and                                                               
intervention is necessary  when progress is not being  made.  She                                                               
remarked:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      We do listen and we cogitate, and we re-think and we                                                                      
      debate, but it doesn't mean that it's a statement of                                                                      
     fact, just because it's said on the record.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:05:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked Mr.  Morse  for  the definition  of                                                               
proficiency as used in the language  of the bill to determine the                                                               
end date of an intervention and to measure growth.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:06:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MORSE  explained that there  are four levels  of proficiency;                                                               
far below,  below, proficient,  and advanced.   The EED  looks at                                                               
how many students  are proficient and advanced,  not just whether                                                               
there  has  been   an  improvement  from  far   below  to  below.                                                               
Therefore, there  must be a  two percent  increase in   groups of                                                               
students moving into proficiency in  each of the content areas of                                                               
reading, writing, and math, for three consecutive years.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:07:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  clarified that the percentage  of students                                                               
moving from proficient  to advanced, or from far  below to below,                                                               
has no effect.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:08:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MORSE said  that is correct.  The ultimate  goal is for every                                                               
child to be proficient, at the minimum.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:08:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  observed that  a  below  proficient student  would                                                               
increase by two percent.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MORSE stated  that that is the group that  would need to make                                                               
gains.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:09:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  opined that the  language of the bill  differs from                                                               
Mr. Morse's statement.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MORSE assured the committee of the intent of the bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:10:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON  asked   whether  "proficiency"   is  the                                                               
measure, or  is it the two  percent student growth.   He surmised                                                               
that the two  percent increase is in the number  of students that                                                               
pass  the  line  from  below   proficient  to  above  proficient.                                                               
Measurements of  students that move  from proficient  to advanced                                                               
would not yield an increase in proficiency.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:11:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES warned  about the  type of  assessment that                                                               
focuses  all  of  the  energy and  resources  on  bringing  below                                                               
proficient  percentages  up,  at  the expense  of  maintaining  a                                                               
steady percentage of advanced students.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:12:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MORSE  responded that  the growth  of all  the students  in a                                                               
school  is monitored.   In  finding an  exit strategy  to end  an                                                               
intervention, an attempt was made to  create a line that would be                                                               
clear enough  to indicate  a means for  proficiency.   He assured                                                               
the  committee that  growth factors  are always  measured in  the                                                               
accountability systems.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:13:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  stated that  teaching to mediocrity  is his                                                               
concern.  It should  not be the intent, or the  goal, to focus on                                                               
the students  who need to  attain proficiency; the  intent should                                                               
be for every student to  increase and individual growth should be                                                               
measured.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:14:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MORSE said that is correct.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:14:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that SB 285 would be held.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

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